How to Write with Eddie Shleyner
Episode 3
Eddie Shleyner is the founder of VeryGoodCopy.com and the author of Very Good Copy: 207 Micro-Lessons on Thinking and Writing Like a Copywriter.
In Episode 3 of "What's Your Process?" we talk about Eddie's experience as a direct response copywriter, how minimalism impacts his writing, and how his process has evolved from when he was working full-time at G2 to starting his own business to becoming a Dad. This is a can't miss!
The Process
1. Intro and "What's Your Process?" inspiration (0:00)
2. What is one thing you're world class at? (4:40)
3. Direct response copywriting and minimalism (6:00)
"As a copywriter, my worth was based on how many times I got people to click a button and take an action."
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Combining direct response techniques with a minimalist writing style
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Constraints fuel creativity
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Limited space forces focus on essential elements
- Inspiration from the great authors like Raymond Carver, Charles Bukowski, Ernest Hemingway and copywriters like Eugene Schwartz and Claude Hopkins
4. How the process has changed (11:40)
"The process is whatever works for me right now whereas before [kids] it was different."
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Process changes during full-time life, entrepreneur life, and parent life
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Embracing flexibility and efficiency in the day-to-day
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Gaining a new perspective and source of inspiration for writing as a parent
5. Acquiring knowledge (16:11)
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Embrace continuous learning through books, podcasts
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Study the greats and learn from them
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Understanding how principles are applied in real-world scenarios
6. Finding the story (17:26)
"I'm just looking for those stories that I think are going to be relatable to people. That I think are going to be entertaining to people."
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Look for inspiration in everyday life
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Pay attention to small details and seemingly insignificant moments
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Train your mind to see the extraordinary in the ordinary
7. Putting it all together (18:15)
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Use as few words as possible
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Present the ides in a clear and impactful way
8. The editing process (25:37)
"The editing process is much longer and much more intense than the writing process. It's also more fun."
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Editing is crucial
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Spend more time on editing than writing