WYP Light with OrangeHow to Write with Eddie Shleyner

Episode 3

Eddie Shleyner is the founder of VeryGoodCopy.com and the author of Very Good Copy: 207 Micro-Lessons on Thinking and Writing Like a Copywriter.

In Episode 3 of "What's Your Process?" we talk about Eddie's experience as a direct response copywriter, how minimalism impacts his writing, and how his process has evolved from when he was working full-time at G2 to starting his own business to becoming a Dad. This is a can't miss!


The Process

1. Intro and "What's Your Process?" inspiration (0:00)

2. What is one thing you're world class at? (4:40)

3. Direct response copywriting and minimalism (6:00)

"As a copywriter, my worth was based on how many times I got people to click a button and take an action."

  • Combining direct response techniques with a minimalist writing style

  • Constraints fuel creativity

  • Limited space forces focus on essential elements

  • Inspiration from the great authors like Raymond Carver, Charles Bukowski, Ernest Hemingway and copywriters like Eugene Schwartz and Claude Hopkins

4. How the process has changed (11:40)

"The process is whatever works for me right now whereas before [kids] it was different." 

  • Process changes during full-time life, entrepreneur life, and parent life

  • Embracing flexibility and efficiency in the day-to-day

  • Gaining a new perspective and source of inspiration for writing as a parent

5. Acquiring knowledge (16:11)

  • Embrace continuous learning through books, podcasts

  • Study the greats and learn from them

  • Understanding how principles are applied in real-world scenarios

6. Finding the story (17:26)

"I'm just looking for those stories that I think are going to be relatable to people. That I think are going to be entertaining to people."

  • Look for inspiration in everyday life

  • Pay attention to small details and seemingly insignificant moments

  • Train your mind to see the extraordinary in the ordinary

7. Putting it all together (18:15) 

  • Use as few words as possible

  • Present the ides in a clear and impactful way

8. The editing process (25:37)

"The editing process is much longer and much more intense than the writing process. It's also more fun."

  • Editing is crucial

  • Spend more time on editing than writing

9. What's next? (32:13)


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